Web414 July 2008 IRC Log

There is usually an IRC backchannel at Web414 Meetings... Here's a partial log from the Web414 July 2008 Meeting.


(07:46:09 PM) Video_Villain: the agreement: what you will and will not do
(07:46:14 PM) iraster: i made it!
(07:46:32 PM) Video_Villain: the license - who owns what and what are they allowed to do with it?
(07:46:41 PM) iraster: hmmm, should I start using contracts?
(07:46:52 PM) Video_Villain: Privacy and non disclosure
(07:47:05 PM) Video_Villain: schedule: when payment and milestones are do
(07:47:29 PM) talentline411: setting expectations... always a good thing
(07:47:30 PM) Video_Villain: scheduling: know thyself
(07:47:45 PM) Video_Villain: respect your client
(07:47:52 PM) KeVroN [n=KeVroN@h69-131-24-92.nwblwi.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] entered the room.
(07:47:57 PM) iraster: scheduling the raster way: fuck sleep
(07:48:02 PM) rohdesign: heh
(07:48:02 PM) Video_Villain: but know how to peg the difficult ones
(07:48:12 PM) Video_Villain: (that's my favorite!!!)
(07:48:21 PM) iraster: PITA
(07:48:27 PM) KeVroN: i have one in the buttttt
(07:48:27 PM) Video_Villain: I want a pony!!!!
(07:48:33 PM) iraster: charge them double... or triple
(07:48:34 PM) littletinyfish: I thought my last one would be easy, but damn ifthat was not the case.
(07:48:58 PM) iraster: change orders!
(07:49:11 PM) Video_Villain: ::schedule downtime
(07:49:28 PM) iraster: downtime? ha... don't sleep!
(07:49:33 PM) Video_Villain: - time tracking
(07:49:38 PM) Video_Villain: --track everything
(07:49:49 PM) blissdev: ooh hierarchy
(07:49:52 PM) Video_Villain: --record task and time spent
(07:50:06 PM) iraster: track how many beers you drink while working on the project
(07:50:16 PM) Video_Villain: --take personal notes
(07:50:21 PM) blissdev: what do you use that data for raster?
(07:50:28 PM) rohdesign: except for raster that would be boyland sodas as he doesn't drink beer
(07:50:34 PM) Video_Villain: --our time is important
(07:50:37 PM) iraster: document everything! it will come in useful in the future
(07:51:05 PM) Video_Villain: do an end-of-project wrap-up with yourself
(07:51:05 PM) iraster: root beer!
(07:51:15 PM) iraster: have a meeting with yourself
(07:51:25 PM) Video_Villain: --learn from your mistakes
(07:51:36 PM) Video_Villain: TIme Tracking Apps
(07:51:44 PM) Video_Villain: --calendar.google.com
(07:51:48 PM) blissdev: man, she didn't put my suggestion on there
(07:51:49 PM) iraster: i used a text file... super easy
(07:51:50 PM) Video_Villain: --getharvest.com
(07:51:57 PM) Video_Villain: --tickspot.com
(07:52:07 PM) blissdev: (uh oh she changed it fast)
(07:52:08 PM) Video_Villain: billing!!!
(07:52:15 PM) Video_Villain: --be consistent
(07:52:23 PM) Video_Villain: --keep good records, and backup!
(07:52:38 PM) Video_Villain: --don't forget your friends...at the IRS!
(07:52:41 PM) iraster: backup... hell yes! use AmazonS3 like raster does
(07:52:43 PM) Video_Villain: (my friend and ours)
(07:52:50 PM) iraster: get a good accountant!
(07:53:27 PM) iraster: a *really* good accountant
(07:53:28 PM) littletinyfish: Freelance taxes last year cost me 25% of what I earned.
(07:53:54 PM) rohdesign: ouchie
(07:54:00 PM) Video_Villain: ask jeramey for the ditching the govenrment
(07:54:09 PM) Video_Villain: --offer multiple methods of payment
(07:54:16 PM) Video_Villain: --clean legible invoicing
(07:54:20 PM) rohdesign: eggs, milk, stones
(07:54:37 PM) Video_Villain: Getting Paid
(07:54:57 PM) Video_Villain: --Make it clear what you expect and when
(07:55:07 PM) Video_Villain: --penalties for late payment
(07:55:34 PM) Video_Villain: --reward the ones that pay on time
(07:55:48 PM) Video_Villain: --legal action (kick um around all the time)
(07:55:51 PM) KeVroN: hris has
(07:55:53 PM) iraster: i think i break most of these rules
(07:55:54 PM) KeVroN: chris has
(07:56:14 PM) littletinyfish: I wanna hear Chris talk about that.
(07:56:19 PM) littletinyfish: We need more freelancing seminars.
(07:56:27 PM) Video_Villain: --re-evaluate payment schedule if necessary
(07:56:47 PM) littletinyfish: JeremyJohns.
(07:57:41 PM) KeVroN: what percent? 20-30
(07:58:35 PM) littletinyfish: Jeremy Favre
(08:02:04 PM) KeVroN: JerameyFavre
(08:04:22 PM) heygab1 [n=gabe_2@rrcs-98-100-174-52.central.biz.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:05:22 PM) heygab1: Should I stream the Chat?
(08:05:44 PM) blissdev: stream the chat?
(08:05:57 PM) blissdev: on ustream?
(08:06:05 PM) heygab1: Sure. CamTwist it. :)
(08:10:29 PM) littletinyfish: Take stickers!!!
(08:11:59 PM) KeVroN: Luv this idea!
(08:13:58 PM) heygab1 left the room.
(08:17:19 PM) Video_Villain: they are trying on shirts, and modeling them for a startup.
(08:20:03 PM) heygabe left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(08:20:29 PM) heygabe [n=gabe@rrcs-98-100-174-52.central.biz.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:20:45 PM) heygabe: Ok. I'm here.
(08:20:57 PM) heygabe: And I'll be streaming this channel on uStream.
(08:24:16 PM) heygabe: Welcome to Web414's July Meeting.
(08:26:07 PM) heygabe: No live stream is available tonight, but thanks to the magic of the internet, we're able to stream the #web414 channel on Freenode.net over Ustream. Wow. That's really stupid.
(08:27:35 PM) talentline411 left the room (quit: "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]").
(08:28:26 PM) littletinyfish: Back in action.
(08:34:05 PM) blissdev: Anyone going to Barcamp Madison?
(08:34:46 PM) blissdev: end of this month
(08:37:00 PM) littletinyfish: The end of the month has me very busy.
(08:37:26 PM) blissdev: i think ashe is and perhaps mathias
(08:37:30 PM) blissdev: other than that idk
(08:38:30 PM) heygabe: I'd like to go, but I don't want to take up space that someoen from the madison community might be better of using.
(08:38:41 PM) heygabe: Esepcialy since I won't be there or the whole thing.
(08:38:48 PM) blissdev: Hmm... that's a good point, I wonder how full they will be.
(08:39:32 PM) heygabe: I'm going to move Twitteriffic Growl notifications down here too. :)
(08:42:29 PM) rohdesign: Can some developer types have a look at this open source conference registration app? Runs on Apache/PHP: http://vsis-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/information/conftool.en.html
(08:43:41 PM) littletinyfish: Beardless Pete!
(08:44:01 PM) heygabe: Srsly?
(08:44:02 PM) iraster: we need a drupal master to get barcampmke site up to date
(08:44:26 PM) rohdesign: something to manage people registering
(08:44:28 PM) heygabe: No Beard?
(08:44:32 PM) blissdev: haven't seen brad in awhile
(08:44:35 PM) littletinyfish: In the vid.
(08:44:39 PM) rohdesign: might there be a drupal plugin we can use for managing that?
(08:44:44 PM) heygabe: Oh.. Sad.
(08:44:47 PM) littletinyfish: IRL Pete is still quite bearded.
(08:44:55 PM) heygabe: I thought pete was going Babyface on us again.
(08:45:30 PM) littletinyfish: No, he's a Skoal man...too rugged to not have a beard.
(08:45:56 PM) littletinyfish: The Bucketworks logo kinda looks like the new MillerCoors logo.
(08:46:00 PM) iraster: maybe i will shave before bcmke3
(08:46:26 PM) iraster: as a fundraiser
(08:46:32 PM) heygabe: Don't be crazy.
(08:46:41 PM) littletinyfish: Auction off your beard hairs.
(08:46:44 PM) heygabe: There's no money in shaving.
(08:46:52 PM) heygabe: Except, you know, as a professional shaver.
(08:47:14 PM) blissdev: later irc peeps
(08:47:19 PM) blissdev left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:26 PM) heygabe: Blis says goodbye.
(08:47:37 PM) littletinyfish: VidGabe!
(08:47:40 PM) Video_Villain left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:49 PM) iraster: man, my modeling career is really going to take off now!
(08:47:50 PM) littletinyfish: Beardless VidGabe.
(08:48:13 PM) iraster: @heyg4braham!
(08:48:26 PM) littletinyfish: haha!
(08:48:59 PM) littletinyfish: When is BCMKE3?
(08:51:24 PM) iraster: bcmke3 is oct 4/5 2008
(08:51:41 PM) iraster: with pre-party event on oct 3 2008
(08:52:04 PM) littletinyfish: Sweeeeeeeeet.
(08:52:30 PM) iraster: videovillain is teh funny
(08:53:52 PM) iraster: wha wha wha waaaaaa!
(08:55:44 PM) heygabe: Someone describe using UStream to relay a IRC channel.
(08:55:50 PM) heygabe: Becuase that's neato-cool.
(08:56:35 PM) littletinyfish: Psyphy Machine
(08:56:39 PM) littletinyfish: GetDropBox.com
(08:56:44 PM) iraster: irc-tarded
(08:56:46 PM) littletinyfish: Javapassion.com
(08:57:01 PM) littletinyfish: Pencil Project.
(08:57:02 PM) iraster: heygabriel is irc-tarded
(08:57:26 PM) littletinyfish: Penny Arcade Expo
(08:58:07 PM) heygabe: Think about the bandwidth I'm wasting!
(09:01:10 PM) heygabe: Can I pimp Evernote?
(09:01:43 PM) heygabe: I've been lovin' Evernote. It's out of closed beta and the way it synchs across mutliple machines and the web is fantawesome.
(09:02:06 PM) heygabe: I kind of wish Basecamp worked the same way.
(09:02:29 PM) heygabe: And the i-Site integration for quick capturing notes is really, really cool.
(09:02:59 PM) heygabe: It does OCR on the pictures you upload and so the text in those pictures becomes searchable.
(09:03:03 PM) heygabe: that is all.
(09:10:13 PM) rohdesign left the room (quit: "See ya...").
(09:11:54 PM) heygabe: That'll do it for Web1414 Tonight, gang. I hope you weren't too disappointed. We'll resume regular broadcasts again in the future.
(09:12:03 PM) heygabe: Good Night Everybody
(09:13:57 PM) aufgehts [n=deg@CPE-70-92-21-28.wi.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(09:19:59 PM) littletinyfish left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(09:23:47 PM) KeVroN left the room (quit: "Later Bitches!").
(09:25:24 PM) heygabe left the room (quit: ).


We've talked about the things created at the meetings being released under a Creative Commons license... but for a group effort like the above, how would we do that? Does each individual choose a license for their comments? Do we as a group, choose one, or does your use of the IRC channel act as compliance to a specific license of our choosing?