Web414 - Milwaukee's Web Community

There is usually an IRC backchannel at Web414 Meetings... Here's a partial log from the Web414 July 2008 Meeting.

(07:46:09 PM) Video_Villain: the agreement: what you will and will not do
(07:46:14 PM) iraster: i made it!
(07:46:32 PM) Video_Villain: the license - who owns what and what are they allowed to do with it?
(07:46:41 PM) iraster: hmmm, should I start using contracts?
(07:46:52 PM) Video_Villain: Privacy and non disclosure
(07:47:05 PM) Video_Villain: schedule: when payment and milestones are do
(07:47:29 PM) talentline411: setting expectations... always a good thing
(07:47:30 PM) Video_Villain: scheduling: know thyself
(07:47:45 PM) Video_Villain: respect your client
(07:47:52 PM) KeVroN [n=KeVroN@h69-131-24-92.nwblwi.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] entered the room.
(07:47:57 PM) iraster: scheduling the raster way: fuck sleep
(07:48:02 PM) rohdesign: heh
(07:48:02 PM) Video_Villain: but know how to peg the difficult ones
(07:48:12 PM) Video_Villain: (that's my favorite!!!)
(07:48:21 PM) iraster: PITA
(07:48:27 PM) KeVroN: i have one in the buttttt
(07:48:27 PM) Video_Villain: I want a pony!!!!
(07:48:33 PM) iraster: charge them double... or triple
(07:48:34 PM) littletinyfish: I thought my last one would be easy, but damn ifthat was not the case.
(07:48:58 PM) iraster: change orders!
(07:49:11 PM) Video_Villain: ::schedule downtime
(07:49:28 PM) iraster: downtime? ha... don't sleep!
(07:49:33 PM) Video_Villain: - time tracking
(07:49:38 PM) Video_Villain: --track everything
(07:49:49 PM) blissdev: ooh hierarchy
(07:49:52 PM) Video_Villain: --record task and time spent
(07:50:06 PM) iraster: track how many beers you drink while working on the project
(07:50:16 PM) Video_Villain: --take personal notes
(07:50:21 PM) blissdev: what do you use that data for raster?
(07:50:28 PM) rohdesign: except for raster that would be boyland sodas as he doesn't drink beer
(07:50:34 PM) Video_Villain: --our time is important
(07:50:37 PM) iraster: document everything! it will come in useful in the future
(07:51:05 PM) Video_Villain: do an end-of-project wrap-up with yourself
(07:51:05 PM) iraster: root beer!
(07:51:15 PM) iraster: have a meeting with yourself
(07:51:25 PM) Video_Villain: --learn from your mistakes
(07:51:36 PM) Video_Villain: TIme Tracking Apps
(07:51:44 PM) Video_Villain: --calendar.google.com
(07:51:48 PM) blissdev: man, she didn't put my suggestion on there
(07:51:49 PM) iraster: i used a text file... super easy
(07:51:50 PM) Video_Villain: --getharvest.com
(07:51:57 PM) Video_Villain: --tickspot.com
(07:52:07 PM) blissdev: (uh oh she changed it fast)
(07:52:08 PM) Video_Villain: billing!!!
(07:52:15 PM) Video_Villain: --be consistent
(07:52:23 PM) Video_Villain: --keep good records, and backup!
(07:52:38 PM) Video_Villain: --don't forget your friends...at the IRS!
(07:52:41 PM) iraster: backup... hell yes! use AmazonS3 like raster does
(07:52:43 PM) Video_Villain: (my friend and ours)
(07:52:50 PM) iraster: get a good accountant!
(07:53:27 PM) iraster: a *really* good accountant
(07:53:28 PM) littletinyfish: Freelance taxes last year cost me 25% of what I earned.
(07:53:54 PM) rohdesign: ouchie
(07:54:00 PM) Video_Villain: ask jeramey for the ditching the govenrment
(07:54:09 PM) Video_Villain: --offer multiple methods of payment
(07:54:16 PM) Video_Villain: --clean legible invoicing
(07:54:20 PM) rohdesign: eggs, milk, stones
(07:54:37 PM) Video_Villain: Getting Paid
(07:54:57 PM) Video_Villain: --Make it clear what you expect and when
(07:55:07 PM) Video_Villain: --penalties for late payment
(07:55:34 PM) Video_Villain: --reward the ones that pay on time
(07:55:48 PM) Video_Villain: --legal action (kick um around all the time)
(07:55:51 PM) KeVroN: hris has
(07:55:53 PM) iraster: i think i break most of these rules
(07:55:54 PM) KeVroN: chris has
(07:56:14 PM) littletinyfish: I wanna hear Chris talk about that.
(07:56:19 PM) littletinyfish: We need more freelancing seminars.
(07:56:27 PM) Video_Villain: --re-evaluate payment schedule if necessary
(07:56:47 PM) littletinyfish: JeremyJohns.
(07:57:41 PM) KeVroN: what percent? 20-30
(07:58:35 PM) littletinyfish: Jeremy Favre
(08:02:04 PM) KeVroN: JerameyFavre
(08:04:22 PM) heygab1 [n=gabe_2@rrcs-98-100-174-52.central.biz.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:05:22 PM) heygab1: Should I stream the Chat?
(08:05:44 PM) blissdev: stream the chat?
(08:05:57 PM) blissdev: on ustream?
(08:06:05 PM) heygab1: Sure. CamTwist it. :)
(08:10:29 PM) littletinyfish: Take stickers!!!
(08:11:59 PM) KeVroN: Luv this idea!
(08:13:58 PM) heygab1 left the room.
(08:17:19 PM) Video_Villain: they are trying on shirts, and modeling them for a startup.
(08:20:03 PM) heygabe left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(08:20:29 PM) heygabe [n=gabe@rrcs-98-100-174-52.central.biz.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:20:45 PM) heygabe: Ok. I'm here.
(08:20:57 PM) heygabe: And I'll be streaming this channel on uStream.
(08:24:16 PM) heygabe: Welcome to Web414's July Meeting.
(08:26:07 PM) heygabe: No live stream is available tonight, but thanks to the magic of the internet, we're able to stream the #web414 channel on Freenode.net over Ustream. Wow. That's really stupid.
(08:27:35 PM) talentline411 left the room (quit: "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]").
(08:28:26 PM) littletinyfish: Back in action.
(08:34:05 PM) blissdev: Anyone going to Barcamp Madison?
(08:34:46 PM) blissdev: end of this month
(08:37:00 PM) littletinyfish: The end of the month has me very busy.
(08:37:26 PM) blissdev: i think ashe is and perhaps mathias
(08:37:30 PM) blissdev: other than that idk
(08:38:30 PM) heygabe: I'd like to go, but I don't want to take up space that someoen from the madison community might be better of using.
(08:38:41 PM) heygabe: Esepcialy since I won't be there or the whole thing.
(08:38:48 PM) blissdev: Hmm... that's a good point, I wonder how full they will be.
(08:39:32 PM) heygabe: I'm going to move Twitteriffic Growl notifications down here too. :)
(08:42:29 PM) rohdesign: Can some developer types have a look at this open source conference registration app? Runs on Apache/PHP: http://vsis-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/information/conftool.en.html
(08:43:41 PM) littletinyfish: Beardless Pete!
(08:44:01 PM) heygabe: Srsly?
(08:44:02 PM) iraster: we need a drupal master to get barcampmke site up to date
(08:44:26 PM) rohdesign: something to manage people registering
(08:44:28 PM) heygabe: No Beard?
(08:44:32 PM) blissdev: haven't seen brad in awhile
(08:44:35 PM) littletinyfish: In the vid.
(08:44:39 PM) rohdesign: might there be a drupal plugin we can use for managing that?
(08:44:44 PM) heygabe: Oh.. Sad.
(08:44:47 PM) littletinyfish: IRL Pete is still quite bearded.
(08:44:55 PM) heygabe: I thought pete was going Babyface on us again.
(08:45:30 PM) littletinyfish: No, he's a Skoal man...too rugged to not have a beard.
(08:45:56 PM) littletinyfish: The Bucketworks logo kinda looks like the new MillerCoors logo.
(08:46:00 PM) iraster: maybe i will shave before bcmke3
(08:46:26 PM) iraster: as a fundraiser
(08:46:32 PM) heygabe: Don't be crazy.
(08:46:41 PM) littletinyfish: Auction off your beard hairs.
(08:46:44 PM) heygabe: There's no money in shaving.
(08:46:52 PM) heygabe: Except, you know, as a professional shaver.
(08:47:14 PM) blissdev: later irc peeps
(08:47:19 PM) blissdev left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:26 PM) heygabe: Blis says goodbye.
(08:47:37 PM) littletinyfish: VidGabe!
(08:47:40 PM) Video_Villain left the room (quit: ).
(08:47:49 PM) iraster: man, my modeling career is really going to take off now!
(08:47:50 PM) littletinyfish: Beardless VidGabe.
(08:48:13 PM) iraster: @heyg4braham!
(08:48:26 PM) littletinyfish: haha!
(08:48:59 PM) littletinyfish: When is BCMKE3?
(08:51:24 PM) iraster: bcmke3 is oct 4/5 2008
(08:51:41 PM) iraster: with pre-party event on oct 3 2008
(08:52:04 PM) littletinyfish: Sweeeeeeeeet.
(08:52:30 PM) iraster: videovillain is teh funny
(08:53:52 PM) iraster: wha wha wha waaaaaa!
(08:55:44 PM) heygabe: Someone describe using UStream to relay a IRC channel.
(08:55:50 PM) heygabe: Becuase that's neato-cool.
(08:56:35 PM) littletinyfish: Psyphy Machine
(08:56:39 PM) littletinyfish: GetDropBox.com
(08:56:44 PM) iraster: irc-tarded
(08:56:46 PM) littletinyfish: Javapassion.com
(08:57:01 PM) littletinyfish: Pencil Project.
(08:57:02 PM) iraster: heygabriel is irc-tarded
(08:57:26 PM) littletinyfish: Penny Arcade Expo
(08:58:07 PM) heygabe: Think about the bandwidth I'm wasting!
(09:01:10 PM) heygabe: Can I pimp Evernote?
(09:01:43 PM) heygabe: I've been lovin' Evernote. It's out of closed beta and the way it synchs across mutliple machines and the web is fantawesome.
(09:02:06 PM) heygabe: I kind of wish Basecamp worked the same way.
(09:02:29 PM) heygabe: And the i-Site integration for quick capturing notes is really, really cool.
(09:02:59 PM) heygabe: It does OCR on the pictures you upload and so the text in those pictures becomes searchable.
(09:03:03 PM) heygabe: that is all.
(09:10:13 PM) rohdesign left the room (quit: "See ya...").
(09:11:54 PM) heygabe: That'll do it for Web1414 Tonight, gang. I hope you weren't too disappointed. We'll resume regular broadcasts again in the future.
(09:12:03 PM) heygabe: Good Night Everybody
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(09:23:47 PM) KeVroN left the room (quit: "Later Bitches!").
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We've talked about the things created at the meetings being released under a Creative Commons license... but for a group effort like the above, how would we do that? Does each individual choose a license for their comments? Do we as a group, choose one, or does your use of the IRC channel act as compliance to a specific license of our choosing?

Folks, we need to put a drop in the bucket... and no, I'm not talking about water... we got plenty of that!

During the storm, things got a little crazy (see Flickr) and there is water everywhere. It ain't pretty. If at all possible, can you put a drop in the bucket? If you've ever attended a Web414 or a MilwaukeeDevHouse, it would be cool if you could chip in a few bucks to help our little clubhouse make it through this disaster. Bucketworks has been a gracious host to us, and it's a time of need for them, so put a drop in the bucket and let's hope it adds up enough to get everything back to normal.

Right now Bucketworks is closed. Until the damage is assessed, they can't open again. What does that mean for the June 2008 Web414 Meeting? We're not sure yet... we may have to move it, as well as other events scheduled there in the near future. Like I said, there's a lot of water...

Jenn has a post on bucketworks.org that tells more, so please go there and see what is up...

And seriously, go pitch in some money! So far it's just Gabe and I that have done so, and that's pretty sad. I know there are others out there who can help, even if it's just $5 or $10.

(Originally posted on RasterWeb!)

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(07:13:41 PM) obrazu [n=Itineran] entered the room.
(07:13:45 PM) obrazu: sup pete
(07:13:58 PM) obrazu: 1st WOOT!!
(07:14:16 PM) iraster: web414!!!!!
(07:14:31 PM) obrazu: web414 FTW!!!
(07:19:01 PM) blissdev [n=blissdev] entered the room.
(07:19:16 PM) blissdev: web414 w00t!
(07:20:05 PM) Video_Villain [n=doubleri] entered the room.
(07:20:21 PM) Video_Villain: Time for some harsh language. ;)
(07:21:38 PM) tapps [n=t] entered the room.
(07:21:59 PM) Video_Villain: No signal! Now's our chance!
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(07:22:29 PM) tapps [n=t] entered the room.
(07:22:31 PM) tapps: yay for patchy internets!
(07:22:57 PM) blissdev: weee!
(07:23:18 PM) iraster: pizza is on it's way
(07:24:13 PM) KeVroN [n=KeVroN] entered the room.
(07:25:19 PM) Video_Villain: I love you internets.
(07:25:41 PM) obrazu: sup web414
(07:25:52 PM) blissdev: sup
(07:29:00 PM) jason [n=littleti] entered the room.
(07:29:54 PM) iraster: doing intros name, twitter handle, ringtone
(07:30:45 PM) Ash1 [n=Ashe] entered the room.
(07:30:58 PM) Ash1: epic fail
(07:31:42 PM) Video_Villain: that was epic
(07:32:04 PM) Ash1: fail
(07:32:06 PM) Ash1: yes
(07:33:00 PM) littletinyfish_ [n=littleti] entered the room.
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(07:33:03 PM) mrohde [n=mrohde] entered the room.
(07:33:15 PM) littletinyfish_: Hungry.
(07:33:18 PM) obrazu: ditto
(07:33:33 PM) Video_Villain [n=doubleri] entered the room.
(07:33:34 PM) Ash1: btw, pizza is $5/each, if you havent already given me teh monies
(07:33:51 PM) tapps: mmm.. monies..
(07:34:09 PM) littletinyfish_: DONUTS!
(07:34:09 PM) Video_Villain: there goes the flip
(07:34:10 PM) obrazu: i has payedz
(07:34:13 PM) Ash1: mmm edible money
(07:34:18 PM) littletinyfish_: LOVE DONUTS!
(07:34:35 PM) joonathan [n=testt@24-158-14-111.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] entered the room.
(07:34:44 PM) joonathan is now known as tronathan
(07:34:45 PM) Video_Villain: logistical food situation?
(07:34:57 PM) Video_Villain: raster just talked about personal issues.
(07:35:25 PM) tronathan: howdy all
(07:35:30 PM) Ash1: hi:}
(07:35:30 PM) Video_Villain: raster also just pulled out some kind of mega flask
(07:35:33 PM) littletinyfish__ [n=littleti] entered the room.
(07:35:42 PM) littletinyfish__: I can't believe the establishment couldn't coordinate water.
(07:35:54 PM) Ash1: @videovillain That was a horrible euphemism
(07:36:20 PM) Video_Villain: thanks
(07:36:31 PM) Ash1: im here for you, bro.
(07:36:32 PM) Video_Villain: I'm just adding color to the event. ;)
(07:36:32 PM) tronathan: water is quite challenging too corrdinate, flows to lowest energy state, ec
(07:36:47 PM) Video_Villain: oooo...coffee
(07:37:02 PM) Ash1: pizza check, brb
(07:37:26 PM) mrohde: Looks like only KevRoN and I got the note about the torn jeans thing.
(07:37:56 PM) Video_Villain: there goes the projector. raster tried to point it out. it was funny.
(07:39:15 PM) Video_Villain: milwaukee water is great, no problem here.
(07:39:42 PM) blissdev: yay milwaukee
(07:39:52 PM) ***tapps hungry
(07:40:46 PM) tronathan: hmm, sounds like the pizza project is behind schedule (and overbudget?)
(07:41:05 PM) Ash1: pizza on teh way
(07:41:13 PM) obrazu: geek squad FTL!!
(07:41:14 PM) Video_Villain: i have some pizza VC if necessary. ;)
(07:41:32 PM) tapps: *nods in agreement with obrazu*
(07:41:35 PM) tronathan: I want 170% of my pizza back in 7 days
(07:41:57 PM) Ash1: @tronathon that is a long digestion period, is it not?
(07:42:50 PM) tronathan: That's how long you have to turn a "profit" (gross) on my "investment" (delicicous)
(07:43:25 PM) tronathan: Big party at BitTorrent today, their DNA product went gold yesterday (DNA = CDN)
(07:43:46 PM) Ash1: @tronathan K. I love you. You win.
(07:43:46 PM) blissdev: cdn?
(07:44:06 PM) tronathan: Content Delivery Network
(07:44:36 PM) blissdev: ah, i should know that, thanks :)
(07:44:55 PM) mrohde is now known as rohdesign
(07:44:57 PM) obrazu: VideoVillan taping f1 challenge?
(07:46:15 PM) tapps: gross
(07:46:22 PM) blissdev: very
(07:46:43 PM) Ash1: omgwtfpizza
(07:47:03 PM) liltinyfish_ [n=littleti] entered the room.
(07:47:04 PM) Video_Villain: what's gross?
(07:48:18 PM) liltinyfish_: I'm interested in participating in any way. Curious as to what it takes to be a designer.
(07:48:33 PM) blissdev: liltinyfish_: make things?
(07:48:52 PM) liltinyfish_: Hyar hyar hyar.
(07:49:20 PM) Ash1: anyone else cold?
(07:49:31 PM) liltinyfish_: Yes.
(07:49:46 PM) obrazu: i'm fine
(07:49:59 PM) obrazu: but I'm almost never cold, so I'm not a good judge of that
(07:49:59 PM) tronathan: A friend of mine was wrecked for the last few days but i am unscathed
(07:50:15 PM) tronathan: <reaches for knock-on-wood multivit>
(07:52:44 PM) liltinyfish__ [n=littleti] entered the room.
(07:52:45 PM) liltinyfish__ is now known as liltinyfish
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(07:53:31 PM) tronathan: someone wanna liveblog me in on the presentation?
(07:54:14 PM) blissdev: discussing a potential milwaukee f1
(07:54:24 PM) liltinyfish__ [n=littleti] entered the room.
(07:54:36 PM) tronathan: thx
(07:54:44 PM) liltinyfish__: cmd.gotdns.org/wingspan
(07:54:49 PM) tapps: hmmm.. looks like pizza is behind me. not sure how much attention i can pay attention to anything but that pizza...
(07:55:00 PM) ***tapps nom nom nom nom nom
(07:55:15 PM) obrazu: pizza is here??!!?!
(07:55:27 PM) blissdev: yes
(07:55:39 PM) blissdev: i think we are waiting for presentation to finish
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(07:57:12 PM) iraster: break time..... food
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(08:06:25 PM) hypnagogic [n=chatzill@101.sub-70-193-20.myvzw.com] entered the room.
(08:06:56 PM) hypnagogic: Wat are you all doing?
(08:07:02 PM) hypnagogic: I can't see you all dammit
(08:07:12 PM) hypnagogic: It sounds like you are strangling musical instruments
(08:08:15 PM) blissdev: haha
(08:08:20 PM) blissdev: we are currently breaking for food
(08:08:45 PM) blissdev: should be back in session soon
(08:08:56 PM) tronathan: anyone doing the robot?
(08:09:23 PM) blissdev: i see no robots at this current time
(08:09:29 PM) hypnagogic: Where are the robots
(08:09:31 PM) tronathan: how about headspins?
(08:09:34 PM) blissdev: looks like we are starting up again
(08:09:36 PM) hypnagogic: I want robotical robotics
(08:09:40 PM) tronathan: those would be two of my favorite breakin' moves
(08:09:44 PM) blissdev: haha
(08:09:58 PM) hypnagogic: Kev should do the robot.
(08:10:14 PM) tronathan: Who the F is Greg Tracy?
(08:11:02 PM) blissdev: according to google he is a stuntman
(08:11:20 PM) Ash1: pete ate the boob
(08:11:37 PM) Ash1: mmm boob
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(08:13:51 PM) liltinyfish_____ is now known as liltinyfish
(08:14:14 PM) hypnagogic: fire up the autobob
(08:14:26 PM) liltinyfish: Do you think the name (Midwest Teen Sex Show) has something to do with the # of subscribers?
(08:14:50 PM) liltinyfish: I'm interested and I'm NOT one of the perverts.
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(08:15:23 PM) Ash1: don't believe him, liltinyfish hangs out at Alterra with PornBoy all the time. I've seen it.
(08:15:32 PM) blissdev: lol@pornboy
(08:15:38 PM) raster_ [n=raster@124-170-31-19.dyn.iinet.net.au] entered the room.
(08:15:55 PM) raster_: raster: ursurper!
(08:15:57 PM) Video_Villain [n=doubleri] entered the room.
(08:15:57 PM) raster_: :)
(08:17:17 PM) tapps: you know you've made it big when you have a wikipedia article that doesn't get deleted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest_Teen_Sex_Show
(08:17:22 PM) blissdev: raste1?
(08:17:25 PM) hypnagogic: If you type google into google, you can break the internet.
(08:17:36 PM) Video_Villain: gk2gk didn't pay?! awful...
(08:17:57 PM) Ash1: note to self: buy domain "geekongeek.com"
(08:18:46 PM) Video_Villain: bought.
(08:18:59 PM) Ash1: @videovillain f'in squatters
(08:19:20 PM) Video_Villain: already have the site up.
(08:19:34 PM) Ash1: already haxx0red it
(08:20:31 PM) tronathan: Registrant Contact:
(08:20:33 PM) tronathan: geekongeek.com Private Registrant geekongeek.com@proxy.dreamhost.com
(08:20:34 PM) tronathan: DreamHost Web Hosting
(08:20:49 PM) Ash1: tronathan is my new main d00d
(08:20:56 PM) tronathan: Any other bubbles you need burst, ash?
(08:21:13 PM) hypnagogic: It's nearly impossible to hear the speaker... can anythin be done about that for those of us who are attending cross continentally?
(08:22:12 PM) Ash1: you could do it with drupal. just saying.
(08:22:14 PM) blissdev: hypnagogic: I'm guessing not right now, there's probably some we could do though.
(08:22:28 PM) blissdev: no ash, there are certain things you can't do with drupal
(08:22:33 PM) hypnagogic: just make the speaker wear the camera on their elbow, with the lens pointed up at their face.
(08:22:35 PM) hypnagogic: that'll work.
(08:22:37 PM) Ash1: @hypnagogic sound tech said it's up as far as we can make it right now :P
(08:22:44 PM) hypnagogic: actually, it's kev's head blocking all the sound, prolly.
(08:22:46 PM) hypnagogic: Thanks tho.
(08:22:51 PM) rohdesign: Gabe says the sound is maxed on the broadcast
(08:23:05 PM) blissdev: Probably need an external mic at some point.
(08:23:09 PM) Irenicus [n=Irenicus] entered the room.
(08:23:26 PM) Ash1: did everyone who paid for pizza get some?
(08:23:28 PM) hypnagogic: We ort to set up a mic stand thingie for that, or somethin
(08:25:24 PM) Ash1: @hypnagogic We are still relatively new to the whole broadcasting thing. That's definitely something we will take into consideration (and I even have a mic at home!)
(08:26:23 PM) tronathan: i have a lav mic but not enough wire to get very far
(08:26:27 PM) blissdev: I wonder how that would work with ustream
(08:27:08 PM) blissdev: can you select audio input streams?
(08:27:14 PM) blissdev: i'm a ustream nub
(08:27:35 PM) Ash1: ::clears throat:: i think you mean *n00b*
(08:27:49 PM) blissdev: same thing
(08:29:59 PM) Ash1: maybe we can get videovillain to use his fancy pants equipment to help us stream web414 meetings
(08:30:22 PM) tapps: "let me in!"
(08:30:45 PM) tapps: http://flickr.com/photos/heygabe/2400462833/
(08:30:45 PM) Video_Villain: you want that fancy stuff? I can do fancy. I'm a pretty fancy lad you know.
(08:30:52 PM) hypnagogic: There's a USB mixing board in the Playspace, and there's a set of nice mics in the briefcase on the floor in the area of the flowspace where all the art supplies are sitting, btw.
(08:31:09 PM) blissdev: This is good info.
(08:31:12 PM) tapps: wait. who needs mics? i have my blue snowflake
(08:31:25 PM) Ash1: omg, yes tapps
(08:31:28 PM) blissdev: trying to increase ustream volume
(08:32:13 PM) ddysart [n=derek@CPE-75-86-142-21.wi.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(08:32:15 PM) hypnagogic: I think it's impossible, because most of the signal is overtaken by noise; the encoder can't tell what's what. You know how it sounds--like an ant orchestra playing in a tin can.
(08:32:26 PM) tapps: what?! no computer on weeknights??! *dies*
(08:33:11 PM) Ash1: @tapps I am going through an internet-free cleansing lately and i lurve it
(08:33:16 PM) Video_Villain: same here tapps, same here
(08:33:37 PM) liltinyfish____ left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(08:33:40 PM) tapps: ugh ugh! no no! i will. not. cave!
(08:33:49 PM) Video_Villain: whatev's ashinator. ;) i'm 'tied in'
(08:33:54 PM) Ash1: lol
(08:33:57 PM) KeVroN: i needs internetz
(08:34:22 PM) tapps: feedback FTW
(08:34:23 PM) ddysart: ouch
(08:34:32 PM) tronathan: i burned the rope
(08:34:37 PM) Ash1: shut up, guys, that was my favorite song
(08:35:10 PM) blissdev: ustream positioning modified...
(08:35:18 PM) hypnagogic: sweeet
(08:35:25 PM) liltinyfish_ [n=littleti] entered the room.
(08:35:27 PM) ddysart: FWIW the audio reminds me of backgound samples from an Orb song
(08:35:37 PM) hypnagogic: Yes! Yes!
(08:35:53 PM) hypnagogic: It's like a post-apocalyptic Little Fluffy Clouds
(08:36:42 PM) Video_Villain: what's gabe's show?
(08:36:53 PM) liltinyfish left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(08:37:03 PM) Ash1: gaiatv
(08:37:11 PM) Ash1: its the cutest show on the tuubes
(08:37:16 PM) Video_Villain: if it's one thing gabe is, he's a 'Showman'
(08:37:22 PM) tapps: weeble wobbles!!!
(08:37:50 PM) tapps: they weeble and they wobble... but they won't fall down!
(08:38:05 PM) hypnagogic: Just put the audio back to the normal level, please
(08:38:11 PM) hypnagogic: then the audience questions will be intelligible
(08:38:16 PM) hypnagogic: it's either "really bad" or "worse"
(08:38:21 PM) Ash1: that is so cool ^_^
(08:38:30 PM) blissdev: how do you do that emote again?
(08:38:38 PM) hypnagogic: caret, underscore, caret
(08:38:42 PM) hypnagogic: shift-six
(08:38:46 PM) Ash1: i love to hear about people from WI kicking ass
(08:38:54 PM) Ash1: no one expects us
(08:38:54 PM) hypnagogic: It's the Japanese Anime Smile: Eyes Shut, Mouth Open
(08:39:03 PM) blissdev: ^_^
(08:39:04 PM) blissdev: i win!
(08:39:06 PM) hypnagogic: Yay when WI wins
(08:39:09 PM) Ash1: but we are the cheese to this great grilled cheese-esque nation
(08:40:28 PM) ddysart: Or the cheese in the earth sandwich
(08:40:41 PM) hypnagogic: Nonesense. No cheese.
(08:40:45 PM) Ash1: @ddysart you mean the floor bread sandwich?
(08:41:24 PM) ddysart: Actually nothing is on the other side of the earth from us, just water
(08:41:43 PM) Ash1: @ddysart Sorry you couldnt make it tonight, would have been great to have you
(08:41:46 PM) liltinyfish__ [n=littleti] entered the room.
(08:42:16 PM) tronathan: ash wants to have ddysart
(08:42:27 PM) ddysart: @ash me too. been mean to make it down for one for months now
(08:42:42 PM) hypnagogic: what
(08:42:46 PM) hypnagogic: is ddysart?
(08:42:58 PM) Ash1: @tronathan- 1 - how do you now i dont already have him, 2 - jealous?
(08:43:01 PM) Video_Villain: ::gabe gets the dirty glare::
(08:43:26 PM) hypnagogic: the video cable was hiding under a pillar, all that time.
(08:43:28 PM) hypnagogic: oh well.
(08:43:30 PM) tronathan: touche
(08:43:35 PM) Ash1: pwned
(08:43:39 PM) Ash1: :D
(08:43:43 PM) hypnagogic: I gots to get on a plizzane
(08:43:50 PM) hypnagogic: have a nice web4141414141414
(08:44:18 PM) ddysart: ooo lighting!
(08:44:50 PM) Video_Villain: next month: microphones and lighting. watch for it.
(08:44:59 PM) Ash1: who turned off the heat?
(08:45:02 PM) tapps: i just learned about knitting. i want to do that RIGHT NOW
(08:45:31 PM) Ash1: @tapps I can teach you
(08:45:40 PM) Ash1: we can knit ::whispers:: together
(08:45:46 PM) Video_Villain: NO!
(08:45:49 PM) blissdev: whoa
(08:45:50 PM) hypnagogic: byeeee
(08:45:56 PM) hypnagogic left the room (quit: "ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008032620]").
(08:45:58 PM) Ash1: ::dies::
(08:45:58 PM) tapps: aaahh.. so *that's* what the kids are calling it now a days :-) i'm so behind
(08:46:16 PM) tronathan: knitting is the new scissoring
(08:46:37 PM) tapps: *giggles*
(08:47:04 PM) tapps: she needs a tshirt with that..
(08:47:10 PM) Ash1: a-greed
(08:47:13 PM) Ash1: matty matty gauger is on
(08:47:16 PM) Ash1: bitchezzz
(08:47:23 PM) Video_Villain: MAD DOG!!!
(08:47:28 PM) Video_Villain: Mad Dog Gauger
(08:47:57 PM) tapps: ps. if you haven't seen the MTSS.. watch it tonight. it's full of awesome.
(08:48:06 PM) blissdev: i iz now cold!
(08:48:20 PM) tronathan: Middle Tennessee Scuba and Swim?
(08:48:23 PM) tapps: who's controlling version?
(08:48:41 PM) Video_Villain: ::sung to Prince's pussy contol:: OOOOOO...VERSION CONTROL!!!
(08:48:46 PM) Ash1: @tronathan from middle tn?
(08:48:53 PM) tronathan: That would be the one.
(08:49:16 PM) Ash1: i mean, are you *from* middle tn?
(08:49:19 PM) rohdesign: are you a fan of TRON?
(08:49:33 PM) tronathan: Negative, home-grown madisonian. Insert granola.
(08:49:50 PM) tronathan: Who isnt a fan of tron?
(08:49:52 PM) Ash1: floor bread, eh?
(08:50:22 PM) blissdev: i use command line!
(08:50:35 PM) Ash1: jordan's hardcore
(08:52:01 PM) ddysart: whatever you did to the audio, thank you
(08:52:05 PM) tronathan: Suppose you had several gigs of stuff you wanted to upload, and you only wanted to upload it at night, off peak - how would you do that using automation so you didnt have to stop/restart the upload?
(08:52:20 PM) Ash1: butt shot! butt shot!
(08:52:55 PM) blissdev: tronathon: i would think that the app would need to break up your huge upload into pieces, and then determine how many of those pieces can be uploaded in a night
(08:53:39 PM) tronathan: was thinking of something that would turn an scp on/off at certain times
(08:54:02 PM) Ash1: cant feel my toes/fingers/probiscus
(08:54:14 PM) blissdev: jigga what?
(08:54:39 PM) tronathan: I just tuned into the webcast ... umm, whats he talking about?
(08:54:50 PM) tronathan: hi kevin
(08:54:52 PM) blissdev: version control!
(08:54:53 PM) liltinyfish_ left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(08:54:54 PM) Ash1: i<3 matt gauger, k thnx bai
(08:54:58 PM) tronathan: Yeah but, what about it?
(08:55:07 PM) tapps: ahHAAAAH!!
(08:55:10 PM) tronathan: oh wow.. intro to version control?
(08:55:13 PM) Irenicus: if your fully comitted, do you have to use a repository
(08:55:30 PM) tapps: no repository... no way!
(08:55:36 PM) Ash1: lol, tapp
(08:55:36 PM) Ash1: s
(08:56:04 PM) blissdev: yes intro
(08:56:13 PM) Video_Villain_ [n=doubleri] entered the room.
(08:56:13 PM) Video_Villain left the room (quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
(08:56:48 PM) tapps: ye olde internet looks a lot like a cloud...
(08:57:51 PM) tronathan: G
(08:58:12 PM) Ash1: looks scary, i wont lie
(08:58:21 PM) Video_Villain_ left the room (quit: Client Quit).
(08:58:33 PM) tapps: it's raining... the internets... http://youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s
(08:58:58 PM) tapps: contogawhat?
(08:59:24 PM) Video_Villain [n=doubleri] entered the room.
(08:59:30 PM) Ash1: those damn europeans
(08:59:37 PM) tapps: etch it out of wood..
(08:59:45 PM) ddysart: SourceSafe - FTL!
(08:59:58 PM) Video_Villain: PPC FTW!!!!
(09:00:48 PM) blissdev: gnu, do you say as "ganoo"?
(09:00:58 PM) tronathan: Dont forget Subclipse!!
(09:01:08 PM) ddysart: Gnu, as in Gary
(09:01:10 PM) Ash1: i use subclipse, too
(09:01:12 PM) Ash1: or rather, i have it
(09:01:13 PM) tronathan: SUBCLIPSE!
(09:01:19 PM) Ash1: and pretend that i could use it
(09:01:29 PM) liltinyfish__ left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(09:01:37 PM) Ash1: you dont want a soggy december, trust me
(09:02:00 PM) tronathan: LIKE SUBCLIPSE
(09:02:09 PM) blissdev: craziness!
(09:02:50 PM) tronathan: ooh i want to see that list
(09:02:55 PM) tronathan: I'm looking for a free svn server
(09:03:01 PM) blissdev: he has it online
(09:03:05 PM) tronathan: link!
(09:03:07 PM) tronathan: ?
(09:03:15 PM) blissdev: working on it..
(09:03:35 PM) blissdev: http://drop.io/mathiasx
(09:04:13 PM) ddysart: Installing Subversion on WIndows - http://tinyurl.com/68hdb9
(09:04:14 PM) blissdev: only file on there
(09:05:03 PM) tronathan: One of the big advantages of running SVN remotely is that you're backed up, if you lose your axe or it breaks, your repo is safe
(09:05:21 PM) Ash1 left the room.
(09:05:32 PM) blissdev: yup, definitely
(09:06:29 PM) Video_Villain_ [n=doubleri] entered the room.
(09:06:29 PM) Video_Villain left the room (quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
(09:06:58 PM) tapps: bye irc. my battery is dieeeeiinnngggggg....
(09:07:03 PM) tronathan: example: generate release notes
(09:07:05 PM) blissdev: bye tapps!
(09:07:06 PM) Video_Villain_: NOOOO!!!!
(09:07:12 PM) tapps left the room (quit: ).
(09:07:31 PM) tronathan: Also, comparing versions
(09:07:46 PM) Video_Villain_: Rick Roll back.
(09:08:32 PM) tronathan: <clapping in madison>
(09:09:58 PM) Video_Villain_: I'm coming in 3x3. (megabits)
(09:11:09 PM) tronathan: I dont beleive that you need a heavy router for a 3x3mbit connection
(09:12:01 PM) Video_Villain_: depends on the distribution, for a home, no, for a business...with many many users...perhaps
(09:12:47 PM) tronathan: I dont buy it.. a PIX 401 is $50 these days
(09:13:37 PM) tronathan: ohjeez
(09:13:41 PM) tronathan: where's my schitozphrenia medication
(09:13:55 PM) Video_Villain_: well, our BarCamp netz really crashed hard, so there needed to be a reason for it. I won't blame it all on Kruger. ;)
(09:14:45 PM) tronathan: the /wireless/ might need to be hardcore, but for pure packets.. i dunno. You would full the NAT tables on a home router, though.
(09:14:56 PM) tronathan: DDWRT shows graphs and mammary usage
(09:16:11 PM) tronathan: nighty
(09:16:17 PM) Video_Villain_: the only Mad Dog I care about it Mad Dog Gauger
(09:16:19 PM) ddysart: laterz
(09:16:19 PM) blissdev: ustream goin down
(09:16:21 PM) blissdev: haha
(09:16:37 PM) tronathan: alright, im audi .... night folks
(09:16:40 PM) tronathan left the room (quit: "ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]").
(09:16:49 PM) ddysart left the room (quit: ).
(09:16:56 PM) Video_Villain_ left the room.
(09:17:59 PM) iraster: bye!

We held a little event called "MilwaukeeDevHouse1" on March 14, 2008 at Bucketworks, where people came together to "party with laptops" as it were. The event was modeled after SuperHappyDevHouse which originated in the Bay Area.

So what happened at our little DevHouse? People hung out and worked on... well, whatever they wanted to. At one point Jon Thoms, Master of Flash, asked me what we were going to work on, and we somehow managed to hook him up with two guys with a startup that needed some Flash component. Matt Pickard taught Jeramey about clipping paths. Tracy did some crazy photo manipulation project. Nikol did... I'm not sure, but she was there... 4braham planned out some crazy Twitter mashup idea. Mike and his son Nathan scanned in drawings and made a book. KeVroN discussed when not to use Drupal, and I strung a guitar.

Things were in full swing from about 7PM on, with about 30+ people at the high point. We had food and drinks (mostly provided by Web414 folks) and ended up ordering pizza and wings later in the night. There were many photos taken, and I even made a video.

(Jeramey is already planning MilwaukeeDevHouse2, so I guess we'll call MilwaukeeDevHouse1 a success.)

Web414 Video Master David Overbeck at Korporate Media lovingly crafted this video highlighting BarCampMilwaukee2, and I have lovingly uploaded it to Ourmedia and to blip.tv

In the time since the first BarCampMilwaukee held in 2006, we've come a long way. The folks at Web414 have become a great force behind events like these. Web414 also helped sponsor BarCampMadison in 2007 and the recent DrupalCampWisconsin. Our next crazy idea is MilwaukeeDevHouse with MKEDH1 taking place March 14, 2008. (And hopefully BarCampMadison2 in April 2008.)

We've built quite the tech community here in Southeastern Wisconsin, and BarCamps in Milwaukee just keep getting better. People are sharing, learning, and making new friends along the way. Enjoy the video... and we hope to see you at the next big thing.

I gave a presentation at Web414 last night about MilwaukeeDevHouse.

Because I am FAIL! at using office suites, I did the presentation in S5, and it's called MilwaukeeDevHouse, FTW?

MilwaukeeDevHouse1 will be taking place Friday, March 14th, 2008 at Bucketworks in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Get there around 7PM, stay until you fall over.

Photos in the presentation provided by Scott Beale aka Laughing Squid. Inspiration for MilwaukeeDevHouse courtesy of SuperHappyDevHouse... Thanks yo!

(Originally posted at RasterWeb!)

MilwaukeeDevHouse1 will take place March 14, 2008, and we hope to see you there.

Sure, we hope to combines serious and not-so-serious productivity with a fun and exciting party atmosphere, but what do you plan do when you are there?

SuperHappyDevHouse23 just took place, and here's a few things people had on their TO DO list for it:

• solar-powered Arduino
• Hello World in Adobe Air
• home automation web UI
• trying to learn how to write a stored proc in Postgresql
• reading about hotel software.
• Working on a coupl'a Facebook apps
• Working on a random heatmap overlay generator

I've already had one person say "I'll bring nasty toxic chemicals to etch PC boards and make something" so already, we're looking at something interesting happening. :)

We've completed the upgrade and migration of Web414, and we are now running the latest version of Drupal (as of this post) and running on a new server, courtesy of Distance Software.

All of the modules have been updated, and minimal testing took place. If you come across something that does not work, please let us know. We may be adding new features as we go, and we just added the CAPTCHA module to help prevent automated registrations.

The big thing we need now is a new theme. We'll be working on that next. If you're interested in contributing, or creating a theme, feel free to do so.

That's it for now, we're back and ready to roll!

The January 2008 Web414 Meeting was held last night, and it was fun. Someone yesterday said it didn't look like very interesting topics, but hey, it's as interesting as you make it, I always say.

We had about 23 people in attendance, even with the snowy weather conditions. I think the community is really beginning to gel. We've got a lot of great people involved, doing a lot of really cool things, sharing their knowledge, working together, it's a nerdy love-fest...

Jeramey showed off Greasemonkey, and showed how he uses it on Flickr. I mentioned the Greasemonkey script I wrote for WebGrader. (If you are unfamiliar, Greasemonkey basically lets you re-write web pages in your own browser, so you can add new features, or disable things you don't like.)

Next up I demoed the Asus Eee PC, the little laptop that runs Linux. I showed the default interface, the full KDE Desktop running on it, Firefox, Penguin Racer, and Potato Guy, which was quite the hit. I then passed it around the room so everyone could get a chance to see how light and small it is, and give the keyboard a try. By the time I got it back, it was running Ubuntu and streaming video of the meeting. (I'm just kidding.)

There was some video streaming and such though... Thanks to Media Master Gabe for setting up Ustream (though it silently failed a bit, that's ok, it was the first attempt.) Gabe and Tracy also showed off Seesmic and the silly video conversations they have there. (KeVroN missed it!)

Oh, and there are a ton of photos in Flickr's Web414 pool thanks to Tracy Apps and John December.

And the Eee PC was not the only little Linux device, as Tracy brought a Chumby, but sadly, we could not get it on the wifi because we could not authenticate it to the network.

Elias Holman of Distance Software gave a "running a business" talk Pecha Kucha style, which involves showing 20 slides for 20 seconds each and talking over them. I thought it turned out really well, and we should consider the Pecha Kucha thing again.

Wait... more? Oh yeah, held a Book Swap & Loan, where people could bring in a book and let someone borrow it, or just give it away. Sadly, I brought like 80% of the books, but it looks like we just started a Web414 Library.

If you take photos at a Web414 Meeting, and you have a Flickr account, and an Upcoming account, there is one more step you can do to tie them all together.

For the Web414 November 2007 meeting, go to the Upcoming page, and you'll see where it says "Photos" and then click on "Add your own..." and it will provide you with a tag. The tag for the November 2007 meeting is upcoming:event=309878

Now, just add that tag to the photos you took at the meeting, and the photos will show up on that page.

Anyway, it's just one more cool way to get your stuff out there with minimal effort. Enjoy!

Our neighbors to the north (Sierra Bravo in Minneapolis to be more precise) are planning an event called the 'Overnight Website Challenge' described like so:

We're challenging our fellow web professionals to a friendly competition: each team donates 24 hours to build a complete website for a Minnesota non-profit and the best site wins!

A few Web414 folks have expressed interest. It'll require a field trip, so it's not for the faint of heart, but if you're up to the challenge and want to form a team, go for it!

For more details, visit f1webchallenge.com

Hey folks, we are just days away from BarCampMilwaukee2, which is happening Oct 13/14, 2007 in beautiful Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

I'd like to thank all the members of Web414 that helped to plan this event, and are making it happen. If you are not a member of Web414, feel free to join us, we meet every second Thursday of the month, and most of us are always online (be it Twitter, Flick, Facebook, or elsewhere.)

For the full scoop on BarCampMilwaukee2, please visit barcampmilwaukee.com

As I write this, we are just 3 weeks away from BarCampMilwaukee2. It's set for October 13th and 14th, 2007. I'm hoping it all goes well. I'm pretty sure it will, but I'm at that point where I start to worry about such things.

Will you be there? If you haven't signed up on the BarCampMilwaukee site yet, please do so now. And... Invite some friends. Let's spread the idea of BarCamp, sharing and learning in an open environment, a culture of participation, in thinking and doing, not just consuming.

Will you join me there? Will you tell others about it?

Thanks!

Did we mention there's a Flickr Group for Web414? Well, there is. You can find it at flickr.com/groups/web414/ of course.

There's a few folks who have started taking photos at the meetings, and honestly, if you use Flickr and have other images/photos that might be of interest to the group, go ahead and add them to the pool.

(The photo above is from John December, and was taken at the July 2007 Web414 Meeting.)

Note: The date for the Web414 July 2007 Meeting has changed! We have moved it from Thursday July 12th, 2007 to Tuesday July 17th, 2007.

We hope you can still make it, or if you couldn't make it before, maybe you can now...